Needing to verify that you have received an email from me requesting a meeting with you and two others from your church. Needing to know whether or not this can be arraigned; or what it is you need from me in order for this to happen? Again, I'm currently not working, therefore my schedule is completely flexible. Waiting to hear from you.
Any and as much information able providing to me in a timely manner, both positive and negative, will go a long way in helping me decide what would best be able helping me with the meths addiction if having to consider other alternatives. Requesting help from St. Mark was automatically ruled out in the beginning, because I was wanting to witness how adult Methodist discussed politics, religion, and the raising of their children.
The Story of Hagar and Ishmael: Good Advise? Are Just Another Miracle Baby Tebow?
As my meths addiction is now back to being a daily habit again, ended up following the advice suggested by the first of the two Sunday services attended at St. Mark; the one where Hagar and Ishmael are sent away...and almost dying in the desert.
DeKalb Crisis Center: Three Year Anniversary
Had I a crystal ball and knew what I now know, would have done this a long time ago. All along, these trips of theirs from Arkansas to visit me here in Atlanta were about them instead of me. Three valuable years wasted on them for them to have heard nothing; even more years taken away from the end of mine. And now finding myself in an even deeper hole needing to crawl out of.
All we have to do, is work on a way introducing me to your congregation up front as to who and what I'm am. Then they come to me with invitations joining them in their discussions/activities. This way the shock value, will be lessened, but not eliminated. From this point, I will work with you on figuring out ways getting other Churches sharing this burden with you.
Think of it as a form of reverse enumeration of our sets into one. As there are already too many sets within the Christian sect alone, I will be in my own set, all by my lonesome, as an Simply Jim: TRULY BLUE BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL; giving us only two sets starting with. Everyone else will be in a set labeled only as "PALE BLUE DOT"; living the shell part of an oyster potentially having a pearl but for now...
just an irritating piece of grit.
As this Methodist Church is TGO, really don't see the need worrying too much; as it should already be used to drama. Rev. Noblitt certainly has no excuse being easily ruffled by my act as he's even a counselor in addition to theater; unless...maybe feeling threatened by....what he see as...competition? Just think Marilyn Monroe's Method Acting.
Anyway, ultimate goal hoping for, at least discussing at some point, is moving me into Glenn Memorial. Even asking advise about a Methodist Tribunal or some form of reconciliation with the help of Emory University. The scars are just too deep for this to simply go away by the use shunning; and made worse with each perniciousness and prevarication.
"Wit should be more like the nibble of a sheep than the bite of a dog; for if it's like the bite of a dog it's no longer witty but insulting instead."
Sincerely Yours,
James E. Avery, DVM
(404) 788-9263
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Subject:
Re: Requested Meeting?
From:
Beth LaRocca-Pitts (bethlp@stmarkumc.org)
To:
jeaverydvm87@att.net;
Date:
Friday, July 11, 2014 6:49 AM
Jim I apologize. We are having some email issues at the church. I must have lost your message requesting a meeting with me and two other folks. Do you mind telling me why you want to meet? That will help me pick the other folks for the meeting. I confess I'm having trouble understanding your emails and what, at base, it is that you are asking for. Can you boil it down for me?
Sent from my iPhone
*** WE MUST BEAR WITNESS FOR THE LIVING AND THE DEAD.
As the "United" Methodist Church had the first eighteen years of my life, the most impressionable years of my life, I insist they accept some responsibility for failing me as a child if they are going to fault me in any way as the man I am today. If silence equals consent,
dialogue must equal purgatory... dead or alive. Do not mistake me; not blaming them for my problems as an adult. But I'm most certainly not letting them getting away with what I'm seeing as shunning games against anything that doesn't fit neatly into this scripted lie they are living inside these walls of their churches; at least as long as I'm able having anything to say about it.
UNTIL MY LAST BREATH I WILL HURL MYSELF AT THEE!
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Subject:RE: Up coming meeting discussing conceptualization, contextualization, set theory as relates to ecumenism and drug addictions
From:Josh Amerson (JoshA@glennumc.org)
To:jeaverydvm87@att.net;
Cc:alicer@glennumc.org;
Date:Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:51 AM
James,
I want to explain to you the delay in our response regarding a meeting. It has come to our attention that you are not allowed on the campus of Emory University or the grounds of Glenn Memorial United Methodist Church, in accordance with restraining orders held by Emory Police. This is why we cannot invite you here for a meeting, and we want you to be cautioned that the staff is now aware of these circumstances.
In our conversations with Beth LaRocca-Pitts, we have also been made aware of the resources to which she directed you for assistance—particularly the Meth-Recovery meeting held at St. Mark UMC and a mental health facility. Alice and I agree, based on the brief encounters that we have had with you, that you would be best served by programs such as these. Neither of us are equipped to address the concerns you have regarding your addiction or the problems you are experiencing with certain members of this and other churches.
I would be happy to meet with you at one of the Emory Village restaurants to pray and to listen, but that is all I am able to offer you at this time. Again, to avoid a possibly damaging altercation, let me caution you that the staff here is aware of the restraining orders against you by Emory and Glenn Memorial and will have to call Emory Police should you come on campus again.
God’s peace,
josh
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Subject:Re: Up coming meeting discussing conceptualization, contextualization, set theory as relates to ecumenism and drug addictions
From:James Avery (jeaverydvm87@att.net)
To:JoshA@glennumc.org;
Date:Thursday, October 9, 2014 7:11 PM
Hello Josh,
I was not aware that I was not allowed on the campus of Emory University or Glenn Memorial United Methodist Church. The only restraining order I'm aware of had a one year limitation. This all sounds pretty much the same perniciousness and prevarications.
And what happened to "no matter who you are or what you have done or left undone you will be welcomed at Glenn. No matter where you are on your faith road journey you are welcomed at Glenn."
Really....I'm I going to have to get a lawyer? Is this what it's coming too?
Answer one question for me Josh, did my mother fail me by taking me to that Methodist Church in Prescott, Arkansas as a child which I continued to be a part of until 18 years of age. You certainly are failing her. And this being a church on the campus of a liberal arts and science university. Can't even arraign for a fair hearing/clearing of the facts.
James Wagner said it himself, "sign of true intelligence is ability holding two conflicting thoughts at the same time and still being able to function."
You have failed.
I've already told you my opinion on John 3:16 ... "Christianity In a Nutshell".....being nothing more than a cognitive dissonance/dissonance reduction chart; nothing more, nothing less. That make you pretty much a dope dealer yourself...you are not innocent...."Pretty Boy Sunday."
"The higher up we go; the more difficult the tests becomes."
There is no such thing as hate being the short end of the same stick it much share with love. You guys have turned "love' into an obscene word.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so un-Christ like."
~Gandhi
You really do need to get off that stool and read more books.
Sincerely yours,
James E. Avery, DVM
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Subject:Re: Up coming meeting discussing conceptualization, contextualization, set theory as relates to ecumenism and drug addictions
From:James Avery (jeaverydvm87@att.net)
To:JoshA@glennumc.org;
Cc:wagner@emory.edu; alicer@glennumc.org; owen@clairmontpres.org; sharon@stbartsatlanta.org; office@central-ucc.org; bethlp@stmarkumc.org; jnoblitt@stmarkumc.org; fred@clairmonthills.org; cpitts@cccgeorgia.org; mike@mikeross.com; bskarda@phumc.com; cboone@ajc.com; bev@stbartsatlanta.org;
Date:Friday, October 10, 2014 11:09 PM
Hello Josh,
Curious....what has happened to those two hula hoops I dropped off as a reminder of our meeting that isn't going to happen. Took you a while planning your last email informing me of your reasons not following through with this meeting.
As far as my plans with the hula hoops, was going to place you inside one of them as an example of a bad Christian since you are only an Associate pastor with Glenn Memorial UMC. Of course this would put Alice inside the other hula hoop as an example of a good Christian although just magna cum laude; in other words room for improvement still. It was my plan showing up with my hula hoop as well; having you two try explaining who's goes inside my hula hoop or not as someone not a Christian? I absolutely was going to refuse playing that game; seeing myself already standing on my set....PALE BLUE DOT...which unfortunately includes you two as well whether we like it or not.
Rev. Fish at United Methodist Church of Prescott, Arkansas, a pastor I've never met but hear about through my phone conversations with my mother all those years, told my mother it wasn't his place to say who was a Christian and who wasn't? Although I was impressed with the answer he gave my mother and thought mighty brave of him, can't help but wonder whose place is it?
Of course I expected you two saying this is not how ecumenism works. Honestly, do not see how you two can believe in a God any differently than me. We just have a pragmatic competence problem. Well you two do anyway at least with your congregation; many giving their consent silently going along with this appearance of having a centralized set ( minus gay clergy being bounded set) ecumenism based on nothing but an assumption from the very start you as Methodist ministers espoused; the rest just rather not knowing the truth.
That what you ministers get paid doing..to be....HUMAN SUNDAYS. It's just another job. And anything you do on the clock does not count toward moral behavior.
I can see why Methodist ministers are guaranteed placement along with a nice pension plan waiting for you. Believing takes practice; it's always has. You guys are just facilitators. Can't help but find it amusing how you are referred to as shepherds watching over their flocks; just to be butchered later. Once man figured out, just stop chasing them and they will stop running away from you; all that was necessary then was keeping the "OTHER" predators away and watching their interest grow...tax free!
"IF YOU LOVE ONLY THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHO BE THE LEADER OF THIS CLUB THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN MADE FOR YOU AND ME?"
+
"IF THE LAWS OF PHYSIC WERE TO HOLD TRUE, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WHEN REMAINING POSITIVE?
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ME!!!
This is manipulation and deception eliminating the possibility of consent. And this is not even going into, "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; even more manipulation and deception. This is being just way to presumptuous.
And another deception, how it really takes only one member of a household, usually the wife, giving the whole household the appearance of being a Christian household. Same thing said differently, "who plays the role of the dummy so the others can follow the money?"
Same thing said even another way,
"TAKE ONE TO MASTURBATE, TWO TO PROCREATE, THREE BEFORE ANYONE FUCKED! FUCKED! FUCKED!"
This one probably explains why not in a hurry removing the ordinance from by-law barring avowed practicing homosexuals as ordained ministers.
Oh! Here''s another one,
"ONCE 1/2 (Rt. vs. Lt. Brain) GETS THEIR MAN, THE OTHER HALF STOPS WORKING."
In other words,
"FUCKED WITH CHILDREN";
the most abused justification of them all.
"Pastoral Care" most likely just a way of milking more money out of congregation members having guilty consciences due to past transgression; without having the victim's consent. For example, how the Methodists fund black related charities due to past discrimination by White Methodists. This really isn't a true worship of god but of a "calf that's gold plated" or even closer still to what I believe the lesson to be learned from "Wrestling Jacob" and his man-MAL.
I'm sure they don't part with this money any better than Jacob.
So!!! I guess I should wrap this up.
What did the "TORTOISE" and the "PEDOPHILE" have in common?
They both get there before the "HARE" does.
About these two hula hoops we will no longer be needing,
and I've mentioned this to Sara your Communications Director...
was planning on donating them to what looked like a children day care facility near the DeKalb County Jail when we were done playing with them ourselves; discussing set theories as they relate to ecumenism.
And having a pretty strong suspicion these children are not Methodist either.
Any way of me getting them back? God forbid I get arrested by the Emory Police showing up just asking for them back. Just too funny it's sad really. Really, really, sad.
You have trashed many good memories had of growing up that Methodist Church small town of Prescott, Arkansas. They will never be the same again.
Sincerely,
Simply Jim, DVM: ? PURGATORY~g(HERD HEALTH MEDICINE)d~DIALOGUE?
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Subject:Re: Up coming meeting discussing conceptualization, contextualization, set theory as relates to ecumenism and drug addictions
From:Josh Amerson (JoshA@glennumc.org)
To:jeaverydvm87@att.net;
Cc:wagner@emory.edu; alicer@glennumc.org; owen@clairmontpres.org; sharon@stbartsatlanta.org; office@central-ucc.org; bethlp@stmarkumc.org; jnoblitt@stmarkumc.org; fred@clairmonthills.org; cpitts@cccgeorgia.org; mike@mikeross.com; bskarda@phumc.com; cboone@ajc.com; bev@stbartsatlanta.org;
Date:Friday, October 10, 2014 11:19 PM
James,
This and your previous emails are unnecessarily vulgar and belligerent. I am forwarding them along to Emory Police for their records. If you enter the facilities at Glenn Memorial again, there will be no conversation, rather the police will be called immediately.
I can only encourage you again to seek help from a Meth Addiction Recovery Program or a mental health facility, as you have been directed in the past.
-Josh Amerson
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Subject:Re: Up coming meeting discussing conceptualization, contextualization, set theory as relates to ecumenism and drug addictions
From:James Avery (jeaverydvm87@att.net)
To:JoshA@glennumc.org;
Date:Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:16 AM
Dear Josh,
In your last email to me, you said you would be willing to meet me at Emory Village to listen and pray only; that was all you could offer.
I don't understand??? I was expecting a prayer.
You could have just deleted it without reading it.... if that meeting at Emory Village would never have taken place as well. I consider an email drafted but not sent to be no different. Or even thought but not drafted.
I asked legit questions in the previous two email regarding whether my mother failed me in continuing taking me to First United Methodist Church of Prescott, Arkansas and about retrieving the two hula hoops. No big deal about the hula hoops. Will just go and buy two more. Definitely not showing up at this day care center just to donate one hula hoop.
Can't help but reminded of a cartoon I once came across. Will send it to you.
I am able forgiving. Been having to be the one doing this all my life. This really isn't about me. This is about sharing my life experiences with others and what I've have learned from them.. You are going to have to have a healthy balance of negativity as well.
"Experience is just nature cruel way of giving the exams first followed by their lessons.".
You are being way too sensitive/defensive most likely suggesting what were only my conjectures to be correct. If you are not able successfully defending you perspective, then only you know how best correcting this problem.
Read up on Tecumseh and his poem about life. Glenn's response to the Bishop letter regarding homosexuals ordained as minister reminded me of this poem; especially the part about reaching our recommendation because we believe that Jesus’ new commandment “[t]hat you love one another as I have loved you,” predominates over all other concerns elicited in our discussions. Loving God and loving neighbor must be our practice, even when honest and intelligent minds may disagree on lesser issues. On the issue of Paragraph 304.3, or any other, when we speak or act presumptively, dismissively, or even disparagingly of any viewpoint that is not our own, we are failing to love our neighbors."
It's not possible. Sounds pretty. But not possible.
And then you need having the personality that's willing to make the effort selflessly realizing Tecumseh wrote this poem at the same time the fledging U.S. was fighting two wars on two fronts: the war of 1812 on one front and against Tecumseh's coalitions of tribes with British help trying to stop us from taking over their land. Hope there is no need explaining the hypocrisy here. In fact Owl Rock Methodist Church where Bert Gary is pastor?now even admits this Church being built on land ceded by the Indians.
Then you have to realize another exclusionary assumption made again....
Through Bob Gary’s expert combination of modern psychology and recent theology with Christian teachings of humility and love for one another, our commitment to listen and disagree respectfully and humbly to our fellow Christians has grown, and that is a blessing.
Apparently un-Christian opinions do not matter. The Common Table recognizes that while we do not all share the same beliefs, we all share one foundational belief: Jesus Christ, Son of the one true God, was born, lived, died and was raised from the dead that we might live
(THIS IS NOT THE WAY I UNDERSTAND ROMANS 6:9) Bob Gary, trained in facilitating the reconciliation of factions having divergent views on important issues within an organization, led our Common Table. Bob is recognized nationally as a leader in this art, especially among churches. He graciously donated his time and skill for this task to Glenn. The Common Table acknowledges with heartfelt thanks and affection his work and guidance, and urges the Church Council and Glenn to recognize his contribution to our church in this endeavor. We have grown closer together in this journey through our reflection on what we shared. In spite of differences of opinion in the Common Table and in the congregation, we members of the Common Table rejoice in our efforts. Through Bob Gary’s expert combination of modern psychology and recent theology with Christian teachings of humility and love for one another, our commitment to listen and disagree respectfully and humbly to our fellow Christians has grown, and that is a blessing. The Common Table believes that the Church should be a place where everyone is welcome and everyone is given the unconditional love and acceptance to which all of God’s children are entitled. We reached our recommendation because we believe that Jesus’ new commandment “[t]hat you love one another as I have loved you,” predominates over all other concerns elicited in our discussions. Loving God and loving neighbor must be our practice, even when honest and intelligent minds may disagree on lesser issues. On the issue of Paragraph 304.3, or any other, when we speak or act presumptively, dismissively, or even disparagingly of any viewpoint that is not our own, we are failing to love our neighbors. Out of concern for the welfare of all God’s people, and, out of special concern for the people of The United Methodist Church, we, United Methodist Bishops – retired, believe The United Methodist Church should remove the following statement from The Book of Discipline (2008):
“…The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching. Therefore self-avowed practicing homosexuals are not to be certified as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in The UnitedMethodist Church.” ¶304.3
Closeted pastors, currently called and ordained in our church, living divided lives while offering effective appreciated ministry. Bishops caught between care for the Church by reappointing an effective gay or lesbian pastor and care for the Discipline by charging them under current legislation. We considered the views of other congregations in our North Georgia Conference and those of Methodist churches throughout the United States and the world. We also considered whether a repeal of the provision could impact the national and worldwide Methodist church. We discussed the fact that ordained Methodist ministers are guaranteed a position as pastor in a church and whether that factor should be considered relevant to the consideration of the issues raised by the retired Bishops' letter.
BTW HAPPY GAY PRIDE WEEK!
Josh. I have nothing personal against you at this moment... yet. And this is giving you room for mistakes; being so young. So...in all fairness to me...you really do need giving me some room here for whatever language I'm feeling necessary. Don't blow such a lady's blouse over this. This would be a form of censorship. This is a challenge/test I'm putting you through. How much ability for empathy do you have?
Listen (or read) and pray...remember.
Be nice having this prayer sent to me by email. Of course will be uploaded to the Internets on my blog.
Sincerely,
Simply Jim
p.s.
Is it fair for one's problem to be considered a psychosis when the triggers for his supposedly bipolar ism (a medical misnomer) is the survivors/confirmation bias of others.
I'm not about to pay Care and Counseling Center of Georgia $130.00/hour for counseling. However, I'm am willing to allow Emory University providing me with a counselor of their choosing only on the condition I can audiotape these sessions individually as well as comparing these audio taped sessions with copies of note made by counselor collected at each following sessions. And I as live alone, no one to concur with at all except a cat, these will be uploaded to my blog for my protection against the congeniality biases of other. We all have them. There is no escaping this reality; except to recognize they exist and make every effort confronting them. Although just a veterinarian, I have very reasonable insider's reasons for insisting on it being done t his way.
I could go on and on and on as to my fairness, but would this matter if your mind is already set; protective of something else?
One more thing, I stopped paying (although I can afford them) the premiums on my health insurance. I am now an avid Obama supporter in violation of OBAMA CARE.
A CRIMINAL UNTiL SOMEONE CARES TO TRULY LISTEN AS TO WHAT IT IS I"M BELIEVING NEEDED HELPING ME GET OFF THIS CRYSTAL METHS ADDICTION!!! FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS I DID GOOD; HAVING DONE MY OWN INTERVENTION. AND I"VE ONLY BEEN FAULTED SINCE. AS I'M OUT TO PROVE DIFFUSION OF RESPONSIBILITY AND TRAGIC VISION OF HUMANKIND (GOOGLE THEM IF YOU NEED TO), AND STILL YET TO FIND ONE PERSON TAKING THE TIME NEEDED UNDERSTANDING HOW COMPLICATED MY SITUATION IS; IF THERE IS ANYTHING I"M DOING RIGHT...IT"S BEING TOTALLY HONEST WITH MY THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON"T LIKE HEARING WHAT I"M NEEDING TO SAY, NOT THE SAME THING AS SAYING NOT NEEDED HEARING IT. AND IF TRULY INDEED THERE IS A GOD, I JUST MAY HAVE SOMEONE CONCURRING WITH ME AFTER ALL. BUT THIS WILL HAVE TO BE YOUR PARANOIA. BIAS CAN BE REAL AS WELL AS PERNICIOUS WITHOUT BEING LEGALLY ACTIONABLE.
“‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ 10 Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes.[a] Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts,and turn and be healed.”
Footnotes:
Isaiah 6:10Hebrew; Septuagint ‘You will be ever hearing, but never understanding; / you will be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ / 10 This people’s heart has become calloused; / they hardly hear with their ears, / and they have closed their eyes
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Hosea 6:9
21st Century King James Version
(KJ21)
9 And as troops of robbers wait for a man, so the company of priests murder on the way by consent; for they commit lewdness.
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Genesis 6:9
New International Version
(NIV)
Noah and the Flood
9 This is the account of Noah and his family.
Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God.
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1 Corinthians 6:9-11
New International Version
(NIV)
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a]10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Footnotes:
1 Corinthians 6:9The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts.
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Matthew 6:9-15
New International Version
(NIV)
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation,[a] but deliver us from the evil one.[b]’
14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Footnotes:
Matthew 6:13The Greek for temptation can also mean testing.
Matthew 6:13Or from evil; some late manuscripts one, / for yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
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Galatians 6:9
New International Version
(NIV)
9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
